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2018-12-23T13:04:53Z

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@@ Loidhne 294: / Loidhne 294: @@
 ! Example
 |-
-| cuin + a || cuin a bha thu an-seo?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">cuin + a</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">cuin a bha thu an-seo?</span>
 |-
-| có + a || có tha seo?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">có + a</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">có tha seo?</span>
 |-
-| có + a || có fon ghréin a tha seo?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">có + a</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">có fon ghréin a tha seo?</span>
 |-
-| dé + a || dé ghabhas tu?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">dé + a</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">dé ghabhas tu?</span>
 |-
-| dé + a || dé an t-aran a dh'itheas tu?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">dé + a</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">dé an t-aran a dh'itheas tu?</span>
 |}
@@ Loidhne 311: / Loidhne 311: @@
 ! Preverbial particle(s) !! Verb !! Subject !! Predicate/Object
 |-
-| - || Tha || Calum || an-seo.
+| - || <span style="color: #008000;">Tha || <span style="color: #008000;">Calum</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">an-seo.</span>
 |-
-| A || bheil || Calum || an-seo?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">A || <span style="color: #008000;">bheil</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">Calum</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">an-seo?</span>
 |-
-| Nach || eil || Calum || an-seo?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Nach || <span style="color: #008000;">eil</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">Calum</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">an-seo?</span>
 |-
-| Chan || eil || Calum || an-seo.
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Chan || <span style="color: #008000;">eil</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">Calum</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">an-seo.</span>
 |-
-| - || Bha || Calum || an-seo.
+| - || <span style="color: #008000;">Bha || <span style="color: #008000;">Calum</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">an-seo.</span>
 |-
-| An || robh || Calum || an-seo?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">An || <span style="color: #008000;">robh</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">Calu</span>m || <span style="color: #008000;">an-seo?</span>
 |-
-| Nach || robh || Calum || an-seo?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Nach || <span style="color: #008000;">robh</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">Calum</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">an-seo?</span>
 |-
-| Cha || robh || Calum || an-seo.
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Cha || <span style="color: #008000;">robh</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">Calum</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">an-seo.</span>
 |-
-| - || Bhuail || do mhàthair || mi.
+| - || <span style="color: #008000;">Bhuail || <span style="color: #008000;">do mhàthair</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">mi.</span>
 |-
-| An do || bhuail || do mhàthair || mi?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">An do || <span style="color: #008000;">bhuail</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">do mhàthair</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">mi?</span>
 |-
-| Nach do || bhuail || do mhàthair || mi?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Nach do || <span style="color: #008000;">bhuail</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">do mhàthair</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">mi?</span>
 |-
-| Cha || bhuail || do mhàthair || mi.
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Cha || <span style="color: #008000;">bhuail</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">do mhàthair</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">mi.</span>
 |-
-| - || Chitheadh || tu || iad.
+| - || <span style="color: #008000;">Chitheadh || <span style="color: #008000;">tu</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">iad.</span>
 |-
-| Am || facadh || tu || iad?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Am || <span style="color: #008000;">facadh</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">tu</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">iad?</span>
 |-
-| Nach || fhacadh || tu || iad?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Nach || <span style="color: #008000;">fhacadh</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">tu</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">iad?</span>
 |-
-| Chan || fhacadh || tu || iad.
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Chan || <span style="color: #008000;">fhacadh</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">tu</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">iad.</span>
 |-
-| Càit an || robh || thu || nuair a thuit mi?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Càit an || <span style="color: #008000;">robh</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">thu</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">nuair a thuit mi?</span>
 |-
 |}

@@ Loidhne 269: / Loidhne 269: @@
 ! Pre-verbial particle<br/>'''Phrase Initial''' !! Example
 |-
-| ... far an... || An t-àite far an robh mi.
+| ... <span style="color: #008000;">far an</span>... || <span style="color: #008000;">An t-àite far an robh mi.</span>
 |-
-| ... nuair a... || Bha mi 'nam chadal nuair a thàinig e.
+| ... <span style="color: #008000;">nuair a</span>... || <span style="color: #008000;">Bha mi 'nam chadal nuair a thàinig e.</span>
 |-
-| ... gun... || Chuala mi gun robh thu ann.
+| ... <span style="color: #008000;">gun</span>... || <span style="color: #008000;">Chuala mi gun robh thu ann.</span>
 |-
-| ... carson a... || Chuala mi carson a bha thu ann.
+| ... <span style="color: #008000;">carson a</span>... || <span style="color: #008000;">Chuala mi carson a bha thu ann.</span>
 |-
-| ... a... || Chunnaic mi an duine a bha ann.
+| ... <span style="color: #008000;">a</span>... || <span style="color: #008000;">Chunnaic mi an duine a bha ann.</span>
 |-
-| ... ma... || Chì sinn thu ma thig thu.
+| ... <span style="color: #008000;">ma</span>... || <span style="color: #008000;">Chì sinn thu ma thig thu.</span>
 |-
-| ... nan... || Bhiodh tu gòradh nan digeadh tu ann.
+| ... <span style="color: #008000;">nan</span>... || <span style="color: #008000;">Bhiodh tu gòradh nan digeadh tu ann.</span>
 |-
-| ... do... || Cha do dh'fhàg mi an taigh.
+| ... <span style="color: #008000;">do</span>... || <span style="color: #008000;">Cha do dh'fhàg mi an taigh.</span>
 |-
 |}

@@ Loidhne 242: / Loidhne 242: @@
 ! Pre-verbial particle<br/>'''Sentence Initial''' !! Example
 |-
-| <span style="color: #008000;">An? || An deach thu?</span>
+| <span style="color: #008000;">An?</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">An deach thu?</span>
 |-
-| <span style="color: #008000;">Nach? || Nach deach thu?</span>
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Nach?</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">Nach deach thu?</span>
 |-
-| Cha(n) || Cha tuig thu
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Cha(n)</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">Cha tuig thu</span>
 |-
-| Có? || Có tha seo?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Có?</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">Có tha seo?</span>
 |-
-| Càit? || Càit a bheil thu?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Càit?</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">Càit a bheil thu?</span>
 |-
-| Cuin? || Cuin a thig thu?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Cuin?</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">Cuin a thig thu?</span>
 |-
-| Carson? || Carson a thig thu?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Carson?</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">Carson a thig thu?</span>
 |-
-| Ma || Ma thig thu, gheibh thu aran.
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Ma</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">Ma thig thu, gheibh thu aran.</span>
 |-
-| Nan || Nan rachadh tu ann, gheibheadh tu aran.
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Nan</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">Nan rachadh tu ann, gheibheadh tu aran.</span>
 |-
-| (Gu) dé? || Dé tha seo?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">(Gu) dé?</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">Dé tha seo?</span>
 |-
-| Dh' || Dh'fhàg mi.
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Dh'</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">Dh'fhàg mi.</span>
 |}

@@ Loidhne 242: / Loidhne 242: @@
 ! Pre-verbial particle<br/>'''Sentence Initial''' !! Example
 |-
-| An? || An deach thu?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">An? || An deach thu?</span>
 |-
-| Nach? || Nach deach thu?
+| <span style="color: #008000;">Nach? || Nach deach thu?</span>
 |-
 | Cha(n) || Cha tuig thu

@@ Loidhne 367: / Loidhne 367: @@
 ! width="120" | Munster Irish !! width="120" | Standard Irish !! width="120" | Scottish Gaelic
 |-
-| do dhúnas<br/>do dhúnais<br/>do dhún sé/sí<br/>do dhúnamair<br/>do dhúnabhair<br/>do dhúnadar || dhún mé<br/>dhún tú<br/>dhún sé/sí<br/>dhún muid<br/>dhún sibh<br/>dhún siad || dhùn mi<br/>dhùn thu<br/>dhùn e/i<br/>dhùn sinn<br/>dhùn sibh<br/>dhùn iad
+| <span style="color: #6600CC;">do dhúnas<br/>do dhúnais<br/>do dhún sé/sí<br/>do dhúnamair<br/>do dhúnabhair<br/>do dhúnadar</span> || <span style="color: #6600CC;">dhún mé<br/>dhún tú<br/>dhún sé/sí<br/>dhún muid<br/>dhún sibh<br/>dhún siad</span> || <span style="color: #008000;">dhùn mi<br/>dhùn thu<br/>dhùn e/i<br/>dhùn sinn<br/>dhùn sibh<br/>dhùn iad</span>
 |-
 |}

@@ Loidhne 35: / Loidhne 35: @@
 :::{| style="width: 15%"
 |-
-| <span style="color: #6600CC;">bā yā</span><br/>NEG S<br/>not he || <span style="color: #6600CC;">cîn</span>cîn<br/>V<br/>eat || <span style="color: #6600CC;">nāmā</span><br/>O<br/>meat
+| <span style="color: #6600CC;">bā yā</span><br/>NEG S<br/>not he || <span style="color: #6600CC;">cîn</span><br/>V<br/>eat || <span style="color: #6600CC;">nāmā</span><br/>O<br/>meat
 |-
 | colspan="3" | ''he doesn't eat meat''

@@ Loidhne 5: / Loidhne 5: @@
 OK, maybe I should elucidate on this S, V and O stuff first.  Bluntly speaking, all languages make utterances that contain information about who is doing what to whom.  Nit-picking about Agent-Patient languages aside, the WHO bit is commonly called the subject (=S), the ACTION bit is the verb (=V) and the TO WHOM bit is the object (=O).  Broadly speaking.
-Take a simple English sentence: Jack is kicking Jill.  Who's doing what to whom? Jack is the one who's doing the kicking, so he's the subject (= S).  Kicking is the action in question, so that bit is the verb (= V).  And Jill is getting muddy footprints on her new Chanel costume, so she is the object (= O) here.  So, in this sentence the word order is SVO - subject first, then the verb and last the action.  If you look at more English sentences, you'll see that that is the overall structure of an English sentence.  Which brings us back to Master Yoda (we're not worthy, we're not worthy!).  Consider his ominous revelation to Luke Skywalker: "Your father he is".  Hm ... here we start with the object first, followed by the subject and then by the verb at the end.  OSV.  While not all his sentences follow this strict structure, a lot of them do and that is what makes him sound so odd.
+Take a simple English sentence: Jack kicks Jill.  Who's doing what to whom? Jack is the one who's doing the kicking, so he's the subject (= S).  Kicks is the action in question, so that bit is the verb (= V).  And Jill is getting muddy footprints on her new Chanel costume, so she is the object (= O) here.  So, in this sentence the word order is SVO - subject first, then the verb and last the action.  If you look at more English sentences, you'll see that that is the overall structure of an English sentence.  Which brings us back to Master Yoda (we're not worthy, we're not worthy!).  Consider his ominous revelation to Luke Skywalker: "Your father he is".  Hm ... here we start with the object first, followed by the subject and then by the verb at the end.  OSV.  While not all his sentences follow this strict structure, a lot of them do and that is what makes him sound so odd.
 Now, for a bit of linguistic trivia.  We've determined that languages beg to differ as to their word order.  So, how many different combinations of S, O and V does that give us?  Yup, six: SVO, SOV, VSO, VOS, OSV and OVS.  By far, the most common two are actually SVO & SOV which are used by roughly 75% of the world's languages, including English.  Another 15% or so use VSO and the remaining three make up about 10% of the world's languages.  Bet you're dying for some examples, so I'll try not to disappoint you.

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 |}
-Some of these phrase intial pre-verbial particles can surface in tandem, with <span style="color: #008000;">a/an</span>, or alone, without <span style="color: #008000;">a/an</span>. However, in some cases, the pairing is obligatory, as is the case with <span style="color: #008000;">far an</span> which only surfaces as <span style="color: #008000;">far an</span>. Particles which end in a vowel and which take the relative particle <span style="color: #008000;">a</span> regularly "swallow up" the <span style="color: #008000;">a</span> if they're next to each other. Some examples:
+Some of these phrase intial pre-verbial particles can surface in tandem, with <span style="color: #008000;">a/an</span>, or alone, without <span style="color: #008000;">a/an</span>. However, in some cases, the pairing is obligatory, as is the case with <span style="color: #008000;">far an</span> which only surfaces as <span style="color: #008000;">far an</span>. Particles which end in a vowel and which take the relative particle <span style="color: #008000;">a</span> regularly swallow up the <span style="color: #008000;">a</span> if they're next to each other. Some examples:
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