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Even Gaelic has its urban myths. One of them is that <span style="color: #008000;">'S e do bheatha</span> supposedly is <span style="color: #008000;">Is E do bheatha</span>, as in ''He (Jesus or God) is your life''. Nice try but no.
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Even Gaelic has its urban myths. One of them is that <span style="color: #008000;">'S e do bheatha</span> is supposedly <span style="color: #008000;">Is E do bheatha</span>, as in ''He is your life'', i.e. either ''God is your life'' or ''Jesus is your life''. Nice try, but no cigar.
  
It's true that if you dig a bit further back into history, you come across <span style="color: #6600CC;">dia do bheatha</span> in Old Irish (yes, fortunately they wrote things down, so we have an instance of CuChulainn greeting Fergus with <span style="color: #6600CC;">Fuit! Día do bethu, a phopa Fergus</span>. So while this looks bit like it might be invoking anthropomorphised omnipotent beings, there's an immediate problem. Yes, it's unlikely to be the Christian pantheon because the Fianna didn't do Christianity.
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It's true that if you dig a bit further back into history, you come across <span style="color: #6600CC;">dia do bheatha</span> in Old Irish (yes, fortunately they wrote things down), so we have an instance of CuChulainn greeting Fergus with <span style="color: #6600CC;">Fuit! Día do bethu, a phopa Fergus</span>, in the Lebor na hUidre. So, while this looks a bit like it might be invoking anthropomorphised omnipotent beings, there's an immediate problem. It's unlikely to be invoking the Christian pantheon because the Fianna didn't do Christianity.
  
 
Bearing in mind very similar Old Irish formulae, such as
 
Bearing in mind very similar Old Irish formulae, such as
 
*<span style="color: #6600CC;">rotbia-su fáilte</span> "to you will be welcome"
 
*<span style="color: #6600CC;">rotbia-su fáilte</span> "to you will be welcome"
 
*<span style="color: #6600CC;">rotbia in failti sunda againni</span> "to you will be welcome here at us"
 
*<span style="color: #6600CC;">rotbia in failti sunda againni</span> "to you will be welcome here at us"
it is much more plausible that the origin of this phrase was <span style="color: #6600CC;">rotbia de bethu</span> "to you will be life". <span style="color: #6600CC;">ro-t·bia</span> being, by the way:
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*<span style="color: #6600CC;">ro</span>, in Old Irish this is a preverb (a particle which may go before a verb), a form of <span style="color: #6600CC;">do</span> meaning "to(wards"
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it is much more plausible that the origin of this phrase was <span style="color: #6600CC;">rotbia do bethu</span> "thou shalt have thy life" (also appears as <span style="color: #6600CC;">rotfia do betha</span> in a 15th century manuscript), with <span style="color: #6600CC;">ro-t·bia</span> being - no, not root beer - but the following:
*<span style="color: #6600CC;">-t-</span> (a marker for the second person "you"), so it's a little bit like having the modern <span style="color: #008000;">dhut</span> "to(wards) you" sitting before the verb. But it's not, before you go down that route, <span style="color: #008000;">dhut</span> per se, because that was <span style="color: #6600CC;">duit/dait</span> in Old Irish
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*<span style="color: #6600CC;">ro</span>, an Old Irish preverb (a particle which may go before a verb), a form of <span style="color: #6600CC;">do</span> meaning "to(wards)"
*<span style="color: #6600CC;">-bia</span> which is the 3rd person singular future of the verb "be" (think of modern <span style="color: #008000;">bi(dh)</span>.
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*<span style="color: #6600CC;">-t-</span> a marker for the second person "you", so it's a little bit like having the modern <span style="color: #008000;">dhut</span> "to(wards) you" sitting before the verb. But, before you go down that route, it's not <span style="color: #008000;">dhut</span> per se, because that was <span style="color: #6600CC;">duit/dait</span>, in Old Irish
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*<span style="color: #6600CC;">-bia</span> 3rd person singular future of the verb "be"; think of modern <span style="color: #008000;">bi(dh) e</span>.
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The <span style="color: #6600CC;">do</span> is what it seems to be, "your" and <span style="color: #6600CC;">bethu</span> is, well, <span style="color: #008000;">bheatha</span>.
  
 
Over time, this would change quite regularly:
 
Over time, this would change quite regularly:
#<span style="color: #6600CC;">rotbia de bethu</span> drops the preverb <span style="color: #6600CC;">ro</span> leaving us with
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#<span style="color: #6600CC;">rotbia do bethu</span> drops the preverb <span style="color: #6600CC;">ro</span> leaving us with
#<span style="color: #6600CC;">tbia de bethu</span> which immediately simplifies <span style="color: #6600CC;">tb-</span> to just <span style="color: #6600CC;">t-</span> and weakens and slenderises it, giving us
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#<span style="color: #6600CC;">tbia do bethu</span> which immediately simplifies <span style="color: #6600CC;">tb-</span> to just <span style="color: #6600CC;">t-</span> which weakens and slenderises it giving us
#<span style="color: #6600CC;">dia de bethu</span>, which now falls prey to that ancient confusion between <span style="color: #008000;">de & do</span>, giving us
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#<span style="color: #6600CC;">dia do bethu</span> giving us
#<span style="color: #6600CC;">día do bheatha</span> which is the re-analysed to
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#<span style="color: #6600CC;">día do bheatha</span> which is then re-analysed to
#<span style="color: #6600CC;">dé do bheatha</span>, further reduced to  
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#<span style="color: #6600CC;">dé do bheatha</span> which further reduces to  
#<span style="color: #6600CC;">sé do bheatha</span> and the re-analysed again as  
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#<span style="color: #6600CC;">sé do bheatha</span> and is then re-analysed, again, as  
 
#<span style="color: #008000;">'s e do bheatha</span>.
 
#<span style="color: #008000;">'s e do bheatha</span>.
  
This also explains neatly, by the way, why this seemingly is ungrammatical i.e. in reference to <span style="color: #008000;">beatha</span>, you would expect <span style="color: #6600CC;">Is í do bheatha</span> rather than <span style="color: #6600CC;">Is é</span>.
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The development of <span style="color: #6600CC;">tb</span> to <span style="color: #6600CC;">d</span> is a little weird on the face of it but there's a well-attested parallel, <span style="color: #6600CC;">at·beir</span> "says it" similarly turned into <span style="color: #6600CC;">a·deir</span>.
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It also fits in much better with a handful of derived phrases that sometimes come up in formal/fancy Gaelic, <span style="color: #008000;">tha thu di-beathte</span> and the stronger <span style="color: #008000;">làn di do bheatha</span> (or <span style="color: #008000;">ur beatha</span> of course) for "you are (very) welcome" (both in response to an expression of gratitude and to welcome someone to a place) which clearly does not invoke any 3rd person.
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In the older texts, this formular is applied in the main people ill or wounded people and the lucky coincidence of the <span style="color: #6600CC;">dia</span> appearing no doubt helped it survive in the Christian era and there are instances where a formula originally genuinely involved <span style="color: #6600CC;">Dia</span> in later versions invoked the older phrase; for instance <span style="color: #6600CC;">Aue rábii .i. Dia latt, a maigistir!</span> (i.e. <span style="color: #008000;">Dia leat</span>) in the Leabhar Breac (c. 1200) much later (in the 15th century) crops up as <span style="color: #6600CC;">Aue rabi .i. Dia do betha, a Maighistir!</span>
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There are interesting glimpses of this elsewhere too, in more recent literature. Though a little tricky (because it's a translation rather than a native composition) the Apocrypha of 1806 (which was actually translated several decades earlier) has this phrase in its apparent native usage in Tobit 5:13 : <span style="color: #008000;">An-sin thubhairt Tobit, 'S e do beatha, a bhràthair</span> - and the context makes it clear this is not in response to someone saying thank you but quite literally welcoming Raphael to the place. There's another instance which even has the opposite. Setanta has just killed Culainn's dog and Culainn asks Setanta who he is and when he hears his answer, he responds with <span style="color: #008000;">'Se do bheatha air sgàth d' athar is do mhàthar ach chan e do bheatha air do sgàth fhèin</span> as in, "well met for the sake of your father and mother but ill-met for your own sake".
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It also very clearly appears in this function in Irish, like the famous song <span style="color: #6600CC;">Óró sé do bheatha abhaile</span> which is attested as far back as 1855 at the very least (it appears in George Petrie's ''Complete Collection of Irish Music'' and is glossed in one instance as ''Welcome home Prince Charley'' in Petrie and in general as ''welcome home'' in virtually all other glosses of this song.
  
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So paraphrasing the idiom, it's really just a very Gaelic way of saying ''live long and prosper''. 🖖
  
 
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Am mùthadh mu dheireadh on 19:49, 2 dhen Chèitean 2022

Even Gaelic has its urban myths. One of them is that 'S e do bheatha is supposedly Is E do bheatha, as in He is your life, i.e. either God is your life or Jesus is your life. Nice try, but no cigar.

It's true that if you dig a bit further back into history, you come across dia do bheatha in Old Irish (yes, fortunately they wrote things down), so we have an instance of CuChulainn greeting Fergus with Fuit! Día do bethu, a phopa Fergus, in the Lebor na hUidre. So, while this looks a bit like it might be invoking anthropomorphised omnipotent beings, there's an immediate problem. It's unlikely to be invoking the Christian pantheon because the Fianna didn't do Christianity.

Bearing in mind very similar Old Irish formulae, such as

  • rotbia-su fáilte "to you will be welcome"
  • rotbia in failti sunda againni "to you will be welcome here at us"

it is much more plausible that the origin of this phrase was rotbia do bethu "thou shalt have thy life" (also appears as rotfia do betha in a 15th century manuscript), with ro-t·bia being - no, not root beer - but the following:

  • ro, an Old Irish preverb (a particle which may go before a verb), a form of do meaning "to(wards)"
  • -t- a marker for the second person "you", so it's a little bit like having the modern dhut "to(wards) you" sitting before the verb. But, before you go down that route, it's not dhut per se, because that was duit/dait, in Old Irish
  • -bia 3rd person singular future of the verb "be"; think of modern bi(dh) e.

The do is what it seems to be, "your" and bethu is, well, bheatha.

Over time, this would change quite regularly:

  1. rotbia do bethu drops the preverb ro leaving us with
  2. tbia do bethu which immediately simplifies tb- to just t- which weakens and slenderises it giving us
  3. dia do bethu giving us
  4. día do bheatha which is then re-analysed to
  5. dé do bheatha which further reduces to
  6. sé do bheatha and is then re-analysed, again, as
  7. 's e do bheatha.

The development of tb to d is a little weird on the face of it but there's a well-attested parallel, at·beir "says it" similarly turned into a·deir.

It also fits in much better with a handful of derived phrases that sometimes come up in formal/fancy Gaelic, tha thu di-beathte and the stronger làn di do bheatha (or ur beatha of course) for "you are (very) welcome" (both in response to an expression of gratitude and to welcome someone to a place) which clearly does not invoke any 3rd person.

In the older texts, this formular is applied in the main people ill or wounded people and the lucky coincidence of the dia appearing no doubt helped it survive in the Christian era and there are instances where a formula originally genuinely involved Dia in later versions invoked the older phrase; for instance Aue rábii .i. Dia latt, a maigistir! (i.e. Dia leat) in the Leabhar Breac (c. 1200) much later (in the 15th century) crops up as Aue rabi .i. Dia do betha, a Maighistir!

There are interesting glimpses of this elsewhere too, in more recent literature. Though a little tricky (because it's a translation rather than a native composition) the Apocrypha of 1806 (which was actually translated several decades earlier) has this phrase in its apparent native usage in Tobit 5:13 : An-sin thubhairt Tobit, 'S e do beatha, a bhràthair - and the context makes it clear this is not in response to someone saying thank you but quite literally welcoming Raphael to the place. There's another instance which even has the opposite. Setanta has just killed Culainn's dog and Culainn asks Setanta who he is and when he hears his answer, he responds with 'Se do bheatha air sgàth d' athar is do mhàthar ach chan e do bheatha air do sgàth fhèin as in, "well met for the sake of your father and mother but ill-met for your own sake".

It also very clearly appears in this function in Irish, like the famous song Óró sé do bheatha abhaile which is attested as far back as 1855 at the very least (it appears in George Petrie's Complete Collection of Irish Music and is glossed in one instance as Welcome home Prince Charley in Petrie and in general as welcome home in virtually all other glosses of this song.

So paraphrasing the idiom, it's really just a very Gaelic way of saying live long and prosper. 🖖



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